2022-09-21 Thompson/Wagner Check-in meeting notes

Participants

  • @Jeffrey Wagner

  • @Matt Thompson

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General updates

  • JW – Organizing OpenFF “tea times” - Important to bridge time zones. Looking for somewhat informal meetings/status updates where every pair of OpenFF people get face time. USA/AUS tea time would be 4 PM Los Angeles. You wouldn’t be required to attend, but I’d try to loop in Josh Mitchell.

    • MT – Yeah, we’re basically a CA-based org with major people in australia. It’s clear that we need to have some sort of bridge where we talk to eahc other. I might be able to make some meetings at that time, but wouldn’t be consistent and would depend on my personal schedule.

Ad board feedback

Sprint planning

(Done)

Issues/PRs

  • JW – Radicals PR - I think it’s about ready, wondering about safety valve like allow_undefined_stereo where we enforce a cordon only around loading and then stop complaining once loaded

    • MT – That would clearly be a ton of work, and if it does end up being the case that some user needed us to support radicals, we can roll it back and cut a new release. But it seems unlikely and wehave a remedy ready, so let’s proceed until we get information that people need radical support.

  • JW – I saw your issue on the MiniDrugBank replacement. I was thinking that we could come up with a checklist of “chemical diversity” and then programatically find a set that has all of those features.

    • MT – From another direction, we could spin up Dalke’s machinery to help with this. But the generated-based-on-defined-features would also work. Should focus on molecules of minimum size so AM1BCC tests don’t take forever.

    • JW – If we have a checklist of chemical features, would we want each molecule to have only one feature, or might we need to challenge the sets by having mutliple?

    • MT – I think there should mostly only be one-feature-per-molecule. And it would be good to have pretty good coverage of all the input features.

    • JW – Could also have things that we know AREN’T valid - like XeF6 and radicals.

    • Brainstorming feature list:

      • File format: SDF

      • Elements: CHONPS+halogens (F Cl Br I) + monoatomic ions from Sage + Mg2+

      • Stereochemistry: Everything from that stereo issue + pseudostereo (little r/s)

        • Overridable failures: Undefined stereo (eg planar C(Cl)(F)(Br)(H) w/ no graph stereo, planar C(Cl)(F)(Br)(H) w/ atom-centered stereo in conn table, C(Cl)(F)(Br)(H) w bond stereo in conn table (keep thinking about this one)

      • Aromaticity: OE aro table

        • Complication: Explicit aro vs. aro model disagreements?

      • Rings

        • Adamantane

        • Bridged rings

        • Host molecule/cyclodextrin (no AM1 tests)

      • Resonance structure: Long unsaturated chain/dye

      • Polyatomic ions: [O-][H]? P([O-])([O-])([O-])([=O])?

      • Bond orders: single, double, triple

      • Formal charges: -2 to +2

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