2021-05-14 WBO/Impropers meeting notes

Date

May 14, 2021

Participants

  • @Pavan Behara

  • @Simon Boothroyd

  • @Jessica Maat (Deactivated)

  • @Trevor Gokey

  • @David Mobley

  • @Christopher Bayly

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Discussion topics

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@Jessica Maat (Deactivated)

  • JM: Here is a plot of the aniline optimization dataset with WBO on the y-axis, improper angle of the Nitrogen in NH2 on the x-axis and the points colored by the rank of electron withdrawing group.


    We see that the highly electron withdrawing and highly electron donating are on the either end of the line here.

  • DLM: That’s a great plot, there is clear distinction between the groups and strengthens our hypothesis.

  • CB: Yeah, thank you JM, this is great. In addition, it would be great if we can find some points (substituents) to cover the range between 0 and 20, may be something at an average improper of 10.

  • DLM: Yeah, I agree, I am looking forward for the 2D scans too.

  • CB: So, which WBO is this?

  • JM: This is AM1 WBO.

  • CB: Wow, that’s great!! It’s amazing. In our initial work we found a correlation of WBOs in the biphenyls and now you are finding a trend with anilines too, I am celebrating now.
    So, where do we go now with this information? So, we pick up the substituents and run 2D scans?

  • DLM: Yeah, I think so. Do you have any idea about the 2D scans?

  • SB: It is setup and ready to run, I will do a check once on the substituents that we are covering everything we discussed. Right now the queue is saturated with the pharma benchmarks, will move this once those calculations move ahead.

  • DLM: Okay, good. Yeah, it would be great to go back to the Taft-Hammett scale and check if we can find any substituent in the missing range.

  • CB: For the 2D scans it’s better to remove the benzo sulfonates that are second row, and use ether instead, that would reduce the compute time, keep in mind things like that which would help.

  • DLM: SB, do we have the WBOs for impropers working? I think we had it in the spec and included it when we implemented for torsions?

  • SB: I think the code is copied over from the torsions, need to check it once.





@Pavan Behara

  • https://openforcefield.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/FF/pages/1715208426

  • PB: Here are some test fits done in the context of sulfonamide debug.
    First one is to check the difference in optimized parameter values with a bunch of linear and cyclic alkanes, where the standard deviation of parameter values is low when different subsets of targets are chosen, which kind of implies that cyclic targets won’t move the values far away from the global fit.
    Second set of fits are for the sulfonamide where a particular type of targets are chosen to fit among TD, OPT, and VIB targets (listed on the page linked above).

  • CB: So, form the optimizations it looks like the wild-west parameters in Frostt99 are not a far shot form them.
    a30b looks like a meaningful child parameter from the angles being drastically different, although the k-values are not that different.
    So, no matter what, around the hypervalent sulfurs we have some angles squeezed and some being large.
    So, in your fits splitting a30 resulted in no change in angle but a change in force constant, and the child parameter has a different angle and force constant, that’s interesting.

  • SB: From table 1 we see that ring structures are not driving the equilibrium angles to lower values, for example cyclobutane mixed with others…

  • PB: Actually, cyclo -butane and -propane were assigned different angle parameters for C-C-C

  • SB: Ohk, then we need to check that hypothesis with a simpler forcefield.

  • PB: Okay, will do that.

  • SB: Also, these fits are with the harmonic restraints (priors) applied, right?

  • PB: Yeah, they’re.

  • SB: Okay, then may be one more refit can be done without the priors would be good.
    So, either the ring systems driving the angle smaller, or the optimization, or something orthogonal to both

  • CB: What do you think about a30b child parameter?

  • SB: There’s something strange here, the optimization of a single parameter has a lower force constant and the split parameters both have a higher force constant.

  • CB: PB, can you also do another refit with column 2 having the child parameter?

  • PB: Sure.

  • SB: Another striking thing is the low force constant for the TD targets only fit, I wonder how the residuals look like for that, may be there is a subset of torsiondrives that are not quite as they should be.

  • PB: Okay, will compile them.

  • DLM: Yeah, leaving chunks of data and doing refits.

  • CB: This is where instead of doing chunks of data we can look at the gradients at the optimum with large data, where half the data is pushing this way and other half the other way

  • DLM: Oh, yeah! TG can your stuff do that?

  • TG: Yeah, it does. I can give you a gradient per IC, that’s not hard.

  • CB: How many compounds you have? I think you can make a 2D-interactive plot with the deltas between QM and MM and we can see the chemistries hovering over.

  • PB: Okay.

Action items

@Pavan Behara
2D mol-plot of deltas (QM-MM)/gradients plot
residuals of TD fit
refit with child param with opt-only targets
linear and cyclic alkanes with simple FF
refit without priors
@Jessica Maat (Deactivated) will try to look into wbos' and impropers of other substituents to find any falling near avg. improper of 10 degrees

Decisions