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Goals

  • Xavier issue with analysis

  • Updates from team

Discussion topics

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Notes

Xavier issue with analysis

Jeff

  • DD: I’m going to instruct Xavi to inject a try-except around the rdkit failure, report conformer id, remove from the set so analysis can proceed

Postmortem/retrospective

Jeff

  • JW: would like us to have a retrospective on what went well, what challenges we encountered, and how we could better address those challenges if we did this again (such as another campaign)

  • DH: Experience with cloud-based deployments, still challenges there, especially basic questions from users with e.g. Jupyter notebooks, cloning repos, etc.

  • JW: think these platforms improve folks' technical ability by giving them a variety of platforms to do productive work on, identifying commonalities, differences

    • I do like the Docker model

  • DH: I don’t think we could have made a much smoother experience in deployment than we had, given our audience

  • JW: At Pfizer, had a common compute platform that had plenty of its own quirks; imagine that platforms across companies so fragmented that deploying across all of them is a general challenge

  • Scheduled retrospective for July 21

Thomas Fox’s analysis

Lorenzo

  • LD: after meeting with DM, DH, GT, have some ideas for using Thomas Fox’s analysis

    • JW – Bonds and angles make sense to look at directly, but torsions may be more complex, since there are many torsion terms about a single central bond. So if a particular torsion is bad, flag ALL the torsion parameters that got assigned to the central bond.

      • LD + DH – Agree. Though torsion violations are even more complicated because they could also be due to nonbonded interactions

      • SB – Since you’re looking at parameters that are OVERrepresented in bad molecules. So we can handle some amount of noise as long as we’re aggregating things over a large dataset.

      • JW – I think that torsions are relatively “noisy”, but bonds

    • JW: you could start using the openff-interchange object for a more interactive view of the parameterization; not clear if it will offer a distinct advantage over your current approach, but would help MT to stress-test

    • LD: regarding central atoms, and torsions being a summation of all the torsions across the same central bond, need to carefully handle deduplication based on atom indices

    • JW: importantly, you’ll want to skip charge assignment if you choose to use the interchange object; will need to ask Matt on how to do this, as not sure how to do it

      • SB: can remove the charge handler; that may be the only real way to do it at the moment with the interchange object

    • LD: working on advancing this analysis in the following days

  • SB – Sometimes this information will be hard to interpret without having the full molecule. So this analysis will be most useful to run in-house.

    • DH – Agree, we should start with the public molecules.

    • DD – This fits well with our organizational goals and the scope of openff-benchmark, so please open a PR when you think it’s ready.

New toolkit release

Jeff

  • JW: had long standing issue where the sum of partial charges from ambertools would be 10^-3 for some atoms across a molecule

    • when we switch to using the new toolkit going forward (unpin old version), we may see differences in charges, but I doubt that these will affect the conformer benchmarks.

  • SB – More solid plans for rewrite of benchmark?

    • in particular, running custom FFs through it

    • JW – Not yet, I’m scheduled to start scoping in July. I’ll have a meeting on scoping (probably hijacking this meeting slot)

  • Scheduled retrospective for July 21

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