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GB3 NMR fits

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name2025-02-06-nmr-fit.pdf

Chapin Cavender

  • MG: should you consider lengthening the runs? Looking at the last row of the iterations slide, they’re all looking good. The issue where the observed and predicted runs seems to be a sampling problem.

    • CC: Agree – however, MS mentioned that repex would give better results than independent windows, as you can move between windows. An individual replica would find it difficult to transition between multiple minima as seen from the 0.7 to 1.0 fraction native contacts landscape

    • MG: that would require additional work, whereas running longer is much cheaper

    • LS: have you looked at the structures in the intermediate replicas? I am pretty convinced we have convergence issues from the data. We can answer the question of whether we’re forming alternative structures by visualizing pairwise RMSDs etc

    • CC – Thought about it, but haven’t run the analysis. That would help characterize what we’re getting in these ensembles. Should be a pretty straightforward analysis. I’d also proposed changing the collective variable to not be the native contacts of the entire protein, but just the helical residues.

    • LS – I recall, my initial reaction was in agreement wiht MG, that you make the sampling problem worse if you don’t include those dofs. OTOH, the uncertainty in sampling might be reduced by narrowing the umbrella windows. Neither answer is clearly right with the info given. Seems like 3 options:

      • Run windows longer

      • Change enhanced sampling strategy

      • Accelerate enhanced smapling with repex

    • Repex seems most appealing to me, but longer windows seems the most straightforward.

    • CC – Agree that making the windows longer will take the least of my time, and that repex would take a lot of my time but have a better chance of improving results.

    • MG: don’t see these as mutually exclusive. Can extend first and investigate other directions as they’re running

    • LS – Agree… Wonder how we can ensure we get a representative sample in each iteration.

    • MG – Is there evidence that running longer won’t bring things into alignment? Agree that repex will do this better, but there’s not clearly a significant barrier to overcome.

    • DM – This seems like a 1/sqrt(n) thing, where you’d need 100 times more simulation to get 10 times more accuracy

    • LS – Repex would help avoid kinetic trapping. It’s possible that two structures at 70% native contacts won’t interconvert if they need to pass through a 80% intermediate structure to get there.

    • MG – I don’t see evidence of kinetic trapping, though how tight are the windows?

    • CC – At one point, I did a histogram to look at overlap between windows. My initial attempt didn’t yield enough overlap, so I reduced them, now the overlap is 10-15%. But doing pairwise RMSD might give a clearer signal of meaningful overlap.

    • MG – I see. Maybe it’d help to do a series with softer restraints to encourage overlap. Or would this make convergence harder in some other way?

    • CC – I think you’d generally get more efficient sampling to converge the FE surface if you don’t allow overlaps muchmore than half a window.

    • LS: I agree from intuition

    • CC: other option is to just run additional replicas with same energy constant

    • LS: could you just do different seeds for starting replicas?

    • MG: how hard would replica exchange be?

    • CC: there are protocols for doing it in OpenMM. I would need to get simultaneous GPUs for running the exchange. I can probably do this on the gibbs cluster but would take some time to play around with slurm options. < 1 week estimated, optimistically

    • LS – Shirts group recently published about ?something? related to this, may have tools to solve/help here.

    • AF – Not sure that that’s applicable to this problem (communication issues, no details)

    • MG: how do you plan to stage the different approaches wrt cumulative fit, replica exchange and so on?

    • CC: starting new replicas is easy, can do that immediately. Expecting butane results in next day or so so can move forward with that. Can integrate those together and start looking into replica exchange while those run.

    • MG – That sounds like a reasonable approach.

    • LS – Makes sense to me. But if the windows are restricting our sampling too much then it’s an uphill battle to throw more sampling at it.

    • CC – So I’ll keep running the current sims for longer, I’ll look at whether window overlap is an issue, and I’ll work on starting up repex on our local cluster.

    • DM – Sounds good. Agree that running longer is the way to go.

    • LW – Agree

    • CC: new replicas vs longer?

      • JW: new replicas seems better for avoiding kinetic traps

      • MG: sounds like it makes sense. What do people think about widening harmonic restraints?

      • LS: it’s another easy thing to try assuming compute resources aren’t the limiting factor.

      • DM: sampling is probably best as you get towards the most native structure. Have you looked at all-to-all (pairwise frame) RMSD plots, including combining replicas? Could see if the same contacts are discovering the same conformations.

      • LS: similar to what I suggested earlier. Again could do n replicas per window, could be a bit sketchy stats-wise.

      • DM: would prioritise just getting things running, and then looking at sampling quality

      • CC: makes sense, I think I have a game plan.

  • CC: probably will not have a Zoom call in two weeks as that’s the in-person work week at Irvine.

    • LS: how many will be at BPS? Would be good to meet up

    • JW: our in-person meeting overlaps unfortunately

    • AF: only one person from Shirts lab is going to BPS, and they work on CG stuff

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