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Recording: https://newcastleuniversity.zoom.us/rec/share/UGLD3gQLTM0FRxw1jw0QSmr9JaioqCwbvTBa8bfPN9wYSv2fBzTnzcZ6ftAxHjPD.r8fNX_aodCU_UpWs?startTime=1721232257000
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Discussion topics
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Scoping experiments/BespokeFit 2 | Slides: View file |
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DC – Can’t recall why espaloma linearized harmonic terms YQ – Espaloma rewrote DC – We’re not doing it the same way as espaloma, just fitting force constants equilibrium distances/angles. YQ – Ah, when I did that, I saw numerical issues. DC – Well, we did see numerical issues, so maybe that’s it. YQ – If you write the harmonics as a combination of 2 harmonics and reweight them, then the gradient is easier to handle. DC – And that’s because the numerical values are on very different scales? YQ – Yes, if you take gradient wrt ?, you’ll get a cliffy gradient, but if you do it wrt ? it’s easier. (see recording ~14 mins) YQ – There was a trick that JC came up with where, for negative phases, you can instead make the amplitude negative. There’s a trick to make the gradients smoother. DC – You’re not tuning the gradients, right? YQ – Right, tuning phases generally leads to trouble in optimizations. JC recommends keeping phases and periodicities fixed and just tuning magnitudes. DC – Ok, I think that’s what we do. We wanted to do amino acids so I’ll test on those. YQ – Is this starting with DESRES/SPICE data? DC – Nope, no external datasets, just energies and forces from ML potential for the input molecule. (though the ML potential itself was trained on SPICE)
JW – How’s the runtime? DC – What are thoughts right now on software engineering and future? JW – Can’t commit without lead team feedback. Will depend on how things look. Will bring this up with lead team and relay news back DC – Funding until the end of september, hoping to have some preliminary results before then.
CC – I like this idea a lot - How do the results compare to bespokefit 1? And to fits using bespokefit-1-style training data? JW – Excited to see how smee performs in this, too. We’d love to know DC – Yes, we’re hoping to evaluate that as well. PB – BW did some tests using smee to fit FFs. How did those go? BW – Using SPICE it took a long time and a lot of memory and didn’t finish. Using Sage training set the final quality wasn’t that great, but I didn’t include torsiondrives initially so I’m trying that now. DC – JH is working on some improvements for memory limitations in smee. Submitting things in batches seems to reduce resource requirements. DC – Interested in understanding why smee struggled with fit quality. PB – When trying smee, I got a lot of force constants being 0. BW – I noticed that too - Not exactly 0 but big decreases in magnitude DC – TP and JH mentioned that as well. Interested to try some of the gradient smoothing stuff from YQ’s work. YQ – Happy to share code, will post paper in channel.
PB – Will MACE potential for charged species be out soon?
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